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November 25, 2006

Why SUSE 10.1 Remains

by @ 2:47 am. Filed under My Opinion, SUSE News, War

Time for some more happiness from the Morris corner. Actually, let’s dispense with the happiness first, so we can get into the meat.

Incidentally, all my subject matter comes from the openSUSE Mailinglist Archives.

First item up for discussion would be the announcement of openSUSE release candidate 1. Straight from Andreas Jaeger:

I’m glad to announce Release Candidate 1 (RC1) of openSUSE 10.2
codename Basilisk Lizard. It contains a large number of enhancements
and updates done by the open source community and Novell’s development

See – and the ChangeLog file
on the first media of each set for a detailed overview of changes.

We have created again Delta ISOs from the DVD and CDs of Beta. Please
use them for download and use bittorrent.

Please report all bugs you find on in our bugzilla as explained in, discussion is most appropriate on the

opensuse-factory@xxxxxxxxxxxx mailing list.

The next release will be in two weeks our final version, we’re now
concentrating on fixing shipment blockers.

openSUSE 10.2 RC1 comes in different medias:
* 5 CDs, you need CDs 1-3 for a normal installation with just GNOME or
KDE (any language) [currently you need CD4 for a KDE install for
non-english installs, this will be fixed for the final version]

* 1 AddOn CD with only non-OSS (binary) packages on it
* 1 AddOn CD with language packages that are used for our tier 2
languages (tier 1 languages are english, french, italian, spanish,
brasilian portugese, german, chinese, japanese and czech – and
support for those is on the standard 5 CDs) (the 5 CDs have support
for installation in all translated languages, just extra packages
are only on this extra media)

* 1 DVD containing the contents of the above 5 CDs and the non-oss CD.
* a FTP tree with open source packages (only for the final version,
for now use the factory tree)
* a FTP tree with binary packages (only for the final version, for now
use the factory-extra tree)

Thanks to everybody making this release happen – and thanks to all
testing it!


P.S. Here’re the usual handy URLs for download:

Download URLs for the torrents of the DELTA-ISOs:

Download URLs for the torrents of the ISOs:
CD Media:

DVD media – ISO images are only available via bittorrent:

Download URLs for the Binary Add-On Media torrent:

Download URLs for the Language Add-On Media torrent:

Download URLs for the full Delta ISOs:
x86 architecture (Intel 32-bit) architecture:

For PowerPC architecture:

For x86-64 (AMD64 / EM64T) 64-bit architecture:

Download URLs for the full ISOs:
x86 architecture (Intel 32-bit) architecture:

For PowerPC architecture:

For x86-64 (AMD64 / EM64T) 64-bit architecture:

Download URLs for the Binary Add-On Media ISOs:

Download URLs for the Language Add-On Media ISOs:

Yes, I realize that everyone already knew that. Happiness over, now onto the fun stuff.

Second item up for bids: Microsoft/Novell

I think I’ve come to the conclusion that I don’t like the Novell/Microsoft thing. I have honestly tried to keep an open mind. Probably more so than many other people, which surprises me. I generally react to that stuff like a truckload of illegal immigrants headed for the nearest INS office (a few more great thoughts about this important matter). Dunno, this time I just didn’t.

The day I heard about that, I felt a dark ripple in the karma of the open source Universe. Kind of like when you’re scuba diving in cold water, and some of it gets inside your wetsuit and shoots down your back. Or like when you’re sitting on the freeway, and you see a fully loaded Peterbilt diesel heading straight for your face. That kind of feeling.

Here are a handful of things that I am working with:

1) Microsoft does not do something in a corporate setting just for the good of the cause. They are always in it to benefit THEMSELVES. This means that if they have to destroy a Linux company or two, no biggie baby. What ever happened to “Linux is a Cancer,” Mr. Ballmer?

2) Name me a company that entered into a contractual agreement or partnered with Microsoft that has come through it unscathed. Yep, I can’t think of one, either.

3) They have a certain history of spreading Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD). Boy, talk about FUD. They’ve practically splintered the whole Linux community. They’ve at least ingrained and widened some of the fissures that already existed. They’ve begun a polarization movement to divide the open source folks against themselves. They’re waiving the threat of being sued over everyone like a terrorist’s bomb-jacket trigger.

4) You can’t blame Novell, they need the money. And boy, money talks (especially $304 Million).

5) I believe that it is one of those things that flashes brightly and fades quickly. Ooooo, look at the big scary monster. Except he didn’t do anything (or someone shot him in the head). Threat neutralized. As you were. I don’t really think as much is going to happen as the general vocal population does.

6) If Microsoft does make good on their claims, they’ll be taking on some huge corporations like IBM. About the fourth time they sue some major client base, they’ll have their hands too full to sustain it for too long. Someone will eventually kneecap them. And you might say that they’d sue individual people. Absolutely not worth their time. So, either way they go, they’ll be screwing themselves.

7) Linux does not infringe upon Microsoft’s intellectual property. Give me a damn break. If anything, Microsoft has been stealing others’ ideas since the inception of the Windows operating system. Hell, DOS didn’t even belong to Gates when it all started. He got it from Seattle Computer Products.

OK, so anyway, my conclusion is to just stick around with openSUSE and just see how it all plays out. The SUSE Linux Enterprise products still rock, though. I have had plenty of time to check those babies out. SLED 10 absolutely rules.

Third on my plate is this unbelievable email from Mark Shuttleworth. That individual has some set of brass ones, man. Right out of the chute, we have:

“Novell’s decision to go to great lengths to circumvent the patent framework clearly articulated in the GPL has sent shockwaves through the community. If you are an OpenSUSE developer who is concerned about the long term consequences of this pact, you may be interested in some of the events happening next week as part of the Ubuntu Open Week:”

Let’s not beat around the bush, homes. Lay it to me straight. Talk about sensationalist opportunism. Don’t even beat around the bush with it. None of this political mumbo-jumbo. Go straight for the jugular. While you’re at it, might as well see if you can’t get the carotid. Insert the word ARROGANT here.

“If you have an interest in being part of a vibrant community that cares about keeping free software widely available and protecting the rights of people to get it free of charge, free to modify, free of murky encumbrances and “undisclosed balance sheet liabilities”, then please do join us.”

Swallow that FUD campaign hook, line, and sinker, bro. Spread it around even. Congratulations, you’ve won my highest award for lack of judgement. It’s called the ‘Boulder on a Chain’ award. The way it works is you shackle the free end of the chain to your ankle, and then throw the boulder into the ocean.

“I know that posting this message to an OpenSUSE list will be controversial.”

There’s the rocket-scientist that I always knew was in there deep down. Came up with that one all by yourself, did ya’?

“I’m greatly respectful of the long tradition of excellence in the SuSE product and community and have no desire to undermine that with this post. That said, I think the position taken by Novell leadership in their contract with Microsoft is hugely disrespectful of the contributions of thousands of GPL programmers and contributors to SuSE, and I know that many are looking for a new place to get involved that is not subject to the same arbitrary executive intervention.”

Looks like he has ‘respect’ issues, claiming respect, then disrespect, disrespectfully. He definitely has respect issues. And possibly a very small penis.

You’re right, that was uncalled for, he has no respect issues.

(K)Ubuntu will not be found on any of my computers anytime soon. Could someone pass me the Mandriva Discs?

I actually found Andreas Jaeger’s response to this.

Anyway, I just wanted to scratch an itch or two, seeing as I haven’t had the time to do that much, of late. I just finished a 13-page marketing proposal for a school class. It was about how to make over $50 Billion force-feeding garbage software to the entire planet. Wait, someone already did that. Guess I’ll have to start over.

Please do not bother flaming me about Ubuntu. Your message will be expedited to /dev/null before it reaches human eyes. I won’t read it, and I won’t respond because honestly, I just don’t care. Understand that I really don’t.

6 Responses to “Why SUSE 10.1 Remains”

  1. heathenx Says:

    boy! i’m a long time suse user user (desktops/servers) who in the last year started using ubuntu on my laptops. i swear by both distros. i still think suse has the advantage (call it maturity) over ubuntu, however, ubuntu has some advantages (call it simplicity) over a load of other distros.

    so with the shake up over the microsoft/novell deal and the proposal by shuttleworth for opensuse developers…i feel like people are shooting at me.

    i definitely do not want other distro teams to fight. all of the big players: red hat, novell/suse, ubuntu, mandriva, debian, ect. PLEASE GET ALONG! take out microsoft PERIOD.

  2. Scott Morris Says:

    Yeah, seriously. I’m sure Microsoft is prancing around with joy like Jim Carrey in the Grinch when they see the bickering. 😐 Everyone just keep your cool, like I always do. 🙂

  3. GN Says:

    That’s what I was afraid of, a “distro war”. It’s not healthy for the distribution in question and it’s certainly not healthy for Linux in general.


  4. Scott Morris Says:

    Yup. Not good. Exactly what M$ wants, though. Everybody remain calm!

  5. Rado Says:

    I confess, I still don’t know what’s that MS/Novell deal about (though everybody talks about it). And I don’t care. Novell and Microsoft are companies having shareholders in mind and you have to accept that. I mean, to expect them behaving like Debian is foolish. In the end, commercial companies like Novell and Redhat behind Linux are still better than nothing and they certainly speed up development. At the end of the day, it’s always your choice what will be installed on your home computer:-)

  6. Scott Morris Says:

    That is a *GREAT* point. Absolutely.

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